Willis Lease Finance Q3 2026 Earnings Call Transcript

Willis Lease Finance (NASDAQ:WLFC) reported third-quarter financial results on Tuesday. The transcript from the company’s third-quarter earnings call has been provided below.

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Summary

Willis Lease Finance Corporation reported a strong Q3 2026 with a 10% QoQ growth in assets under management, driven by the acquisition of WNG aircraft and engine leasing entities.

The company achieved record lease rent revenues of $84.4 million, up 10.2% YoY, and an adjusted EBITDA of $100.9 million.

Significant strategic initiatives include expanding the engine repair center model to Asia and consolidating operations in South Florida.

The company plans to increase its quarterly dividend by 12.8% and has approved a share repurchase program of up to $200 million through 2031.

Management highlighted strong demand for its assets and services, despite challenges like high fuel prices and geopolitical risks, and emphasized the strategic use of third-party capital for growth.

The company ended the quarter with $4.9 billion in assets under management and surpassed $3 billion in its on-balance-sheet portfolio for the first time.

A notable operational highlight includes the purchase of land for a new engine repair center in Malaysia, enhancing their presence in the Asia Pacific region.

Full Transcript

OPERATOR

Financial guidance, outlook for the Company and our expected investment and growth initiatives. Please note these forward-looking statements are based on current expectations and assumptions, which are subject to risks and uncertainties. These statements reflect Willis Lease Finance’s views only as of today. They should not be relied upon as representative of views as of any subsequent date. Willis Lease Finance undertakes no obligation to revise or publicly release the results of any revision to these forward-looking statements in light of new information or future events.

These statements are subject to a variety of risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from expectations. For further discussion of the material risks and other important factors that could affect Willis Lease Finance’s financial results, please refer to its filings with the SEC, including, without limitation, Willis Lease Finance’s most recent quarterly reports on Form 10-Q, Annual Report on Form 10-K, and other periodic reports, which are available on the Investor Relations section of Willis Lease Finance’s website at www.wlfc.global.

Austin Willis (Chief Executive Officer)

Thank you, operator, and thank you all for joining us today to discuss Willis Lease Finance Corporation’s third quarter 2026 financial results. On our call today, I’m joined by Scott Flaherty, our Chief Financial Officer. I’m pleased to announce another great quarter. We continue to deliver on our strategy to expand our platform with services, managed capital and balance sheet investment. We grew our assets under management by 10% quarter over quarter and our on-balance-sheet portfolio by 12% quarter over quarter. This was due in large part to the closing on the purchase of the WNG aircraft and engine leasing entities. Our results reflect the strength of our core leasing business.

As we add assets to the balance sheet, it has a clear, direct and positive impact to our earnings. By growing Willis Aviation Capital, we are investing in the future, driving long-term fees, carried interest and asset growth to run through our services businesses. We continue to be selective in the types of transactions that we pursue as we originate aircraft and engine investment opportunities. We allocate them across our different pools of capital, namely on our balance sheet and Willis Aviation Capital, which encompasses our two discretionary funds and our joint venture with Mitsui and CASC in China. As we deploy capital into our different funds, we will see slower growth on our balance sheet for a period of time.

Now that the seeding phase of our fund strategy is complete, we can focus more directly on building up our balance sheet, which you can see from our Q3 results reacts favorably to even modest amounts of growth. In Q3, we took several meaningful steps forward beyond expanding our aircraft and engine portfolio. We announced plans to replicate our proven engine repair center model in Asia, building on the success of our operations in the UK and in the US. We also advanced plans to expand our operations in South Florida with the acquisition of a new facility that will house and consolidate our parts business and our MRO WERCs, establish a new corporate headquarters, and provide a controlled environment for storing and maintaining engines.

I will recap these updates in greater detail shortly. We are making these investments against a backdrop of strong underlying demand for our assets and services, supported by persistent engine supply constraints and growing aftermarket maintenance requirements. Financially, we ended the quarter with about 4.9 billion in assets under management, increasing this from roughly 3.7 billion in Q3 2025 and 4.4 billion in Q2 2026. For the first time, we surpassed 3 billion in our on-balance-sheet portfolio. For the quarter, we delivered earnings before tax of 19 million and adjusted EBITDA of 101 million. I’d also like to highlight our contribution margin, a key indicator of the strength of the leasing business.

Contribution margin is defined as lease rent, revenue and interest income, less interest expense and depreciation and amortization of assets held for lease. In Q3 it exceeded 25 million, representing 18% year-over-year growth and a record quarterly high. This is driven largely by balance sheet growth, and it should be noted that some of this may be temporarily reversed as we take a selection of these assets we just purchased and move them from held for sale into Willis Aviation Capital.

Scott will provide more details in a few minutes. Before turning to our individual business segments, I’d like to spend a few minutes discussing market dynamics. Fuel prices, high interest rates and geopolitical risks are challenging the aviation sector, yet we continue to see strong demand for our products and services. Having come back from a regional tour of Asia in late August, two things are clear. High fuel prices are influencing operators regionally, and the growth that the region is experiencing is profound.

Based on our conversations with numerous airlines over the past few months, we aren’t seeing a meaningful increase in retirements, but there is discussion about parking some aircraft. By and large, these are older, less fuel-efficient aircraft. You can see from our results that short-term maintenance reserves have decreased since April 2026. This is partially driven by macro events that have resulted in less flying, but it is also a byproduct of modernizing our fleet, which is now nearly 60% modern technology like LEAP, GTF and GEnx engine platforms versus 54% one year ago.

Should high fuel prices and other factors continue to pressure airlines, we remain exceptionally well positioned to help provide liquidity to those airlines looking to shore up their balance sheets and to provide constant thrust type solutions to airlines who would rather opt to lease in temporarily rather than pay expensive shop visits during times of tight liquidity. Speaking of liquidity, we have a great deal of dry powder ready to deploy through our balance sheet and Willis Aviation Capital.

Now let me turn to the Willis platform and our primary business segments: Leasing, Willis Aviation Capital and Services. Starting with Leasing, our leasing business is performing well as we have been focusing on reallocating assets to different pools of capital to execute our growth strategy. Across our balance sheet business and Willis Aviation Capital, we saw solid utilization of our lease portfolio in Q3 averaging about 83%. In August we announced the acquisition of 12 commercial aircraft and 13 aircraft engines.

This is a significant expansion of our portfolio that puts capital to work in assets fitting well within our existing business and reflects our continued focus on disciplined growth and long-term value creation. Next, Willis Aviation Capital, or WAC, grew to over 1.5 billion in Q3 2026. As we stand today, we have roughly 1 billion of additional capital ready to deploy through our discretionary funds, which is in addition to the capital raised by our joint ventures and Willis Aviation Capital structure. This liquidity, along with the undrawn revolver capacity and our low net leverage, provides added flexibility that will allow us to execute our growth strategy.

This model can meaningfully increase the scale of the Willis platform over time while generating additional asset management and services revenue. I’d like to point you to slide nine in our investor presentation which shows our income from investments and fee-related earnings. When you combine these two elements you can see the return on equity that we generate by managing third-party capital is significant and this is going to be a key driver for us as we grow.

Finally, Services. With industry maintenance capacity constrained and shop visits taking longer, our services businesses continue to be a major strategic advantage and value creator for our own assets and those we manage. Just before our Q2 earnings call, we announced a long-term engine storage agreement with Pratt & Whitney to provide storage and lease return services for PW1100, PW1500, PW1900, PW4000 and V2500 engines. WLSC will support Pratt & Whitney’s growing aftermarket storage requirements from its Florida, UK and Malaysia facilities.

Another exciting update from the third quarter was the purchase of land to build a new Willis Engine Repair Center, or WERC, in Malaysia. This is our third WERC facility globally and our first in Asia, and like our facilities in Florida and the UK, it will provide maintenance, repair and storage services for our engine portfolio and third-party assets. Critically, this new facility allows us to get closer to our customers and partners across the Asia Pacific and will support our long-term growth across the region.

As I mentioned earlier in my remarks, I recently spent two weeks traveling around Asia meeting customers, partners and other stakeholders, and a large takeaway was the level of activity and long-term confidence in aviation across the region—one of the world’s fastest-growing aviation markets—and as demand for engine maintenance continues to accelerate, we’re confident that WERC Malaysia will position Willis to capitalize on this long-term growth.

Our investment in the APAC region demonstrates the global scale of our ambition, and in Q3 we made a similarly important investment in infrastructure here in South Florida with the purchase and sale agreement for a new campus that will bring our headquarters, spare parts business, maintenance and repair operations, and engine storage together under one roof. This is not only a reflection of our expanded operational footprint, but it will increase operational efficiency, promote faster decision-making processes, support future customer demand and bring our people closer together.

South Florida has been an excellent home for our business and we’re proud to continue growing within the region and to support further expansion of our global services platform. In September we entered into a $35 million preferred stock purchase agreement with the Development Bank of Japan for our Series B Preferred Stock, taking us to 100 million total in Series B Preferred Stock. This builds on our long-term partnership with DBJ and further diversifies the sources of capital to support growth. Finally, we recently announced an increase in our quarterly dividend to $0.15 per share, reflecting a 12.8% increase from our prior August distribution and our long-term confidence in our business.

We also announced that the Board has approved the renewal and increase of our share repurchase program under which the company may repurchase its common stock for an aggregate purchase price of up to 200 million through December 31, 2031. While we do not have immediate plans to repurchase shares, we want the flexibility to act should the right opportunity present itself. As I’ve stated before, we view ourselves as a growth stock with numerous attractive opportunities to deploy capital.

At the same time, we continue to evaluate ways to return capital to shareholders, including through accretive share repurchases that can deliver premium returns. Overall, we have achieved another solid quarter and we are confident in the progress we are making to scale our global platform, expand our portfolio and deliver long-term value for our shareholders. With significant capital to deploy into attractive aviation assets and with strong demand across both our leasing and maintenance services, we believe WLFC is well positioned for the next phase of growth. With that, I would like to hand it over to Scott Flaherty, our CFO, to discuss our financial performance in greater depth.

Scott Flaherty (Chief Financial Officer)

Thank you, Austin, and good morning all. Q3 was a solid quarter for Willis Lease, producing multiple records for the business from core lease rent revenues through income received from our many investments. As we focused the first half of the year on staging and seeding our funds and joint ventures, we have now shifted to growth across the platform. The third quarter’s record $246.3 million of revenues produced $18.8 million of earnings before tax, or EBT, $10.2 million of net income attributable to common shareholders, and $0.47 of diluted earnings per share, as well as $100.9 million of adjusted EBITDA. Walking through the P&L, our quarterly top line was driven by record lease rent revenues of $84.4 million in the quarter. Lease rent revenues were up 10.2% year over year. Growth in lease rent revenues was driven by an increase in balance sheet portfolio, up 14.2% from Q3 2025, measured as equipment held for operating lease, maintenance reserves, notes receivable, and investment in sales-type leases, which at the end of the third quarter was $3.3 billion in book value; strength in lease rates, as our average lease rate ticked up from 1.04% to 1.06% in the comparable year-over-year periods; all of which was slightly offset by average utilization, which was down from 86% in Q3 2025 to 83.2% in Q3 2026.

Maintenance reserve revenues for the quarter were $39.3 million, down from $76.1 million in the prior comparable period. The majority of that decline was due to lower long-term maintenance reserves, which is associated with engines coming off long-term leases. This was $2.6 million in the current quarter compared to $29.5 million, as we only recognized long-term maintenance reserves on three engines in the third quarter of 2026. $36.8 million of these revenues were short-term maintenance reserves, as compared to $46.6 million in the third quarter of 2025.

Short-term maintenance reserve revenues are a proxy for both the number of engines that we have on short-term lease conditions as well as the operating tempo of these engines. New-tech engines, which make up a larger percentage of our portfolio—approximately 60% today—tend to be on long-term lease conditions. So despite the fact that we receive maintenance reserve cash flows for the monthly utilization of these assets, we do not recognize the revenues generally until the end of lease.

Looking at the long-term maintenance reserve cash receipts year to date 2026, we see that they are up 72% to $27.8 million compared to the first nine months of 2025. Although this does not immediately hit our P&L, they provide significant cash flow to the business and are reflective of our growth in the new-tech equipment. Spare parts and equipment sales were $98.1 million in the quarter compared to $5.4 million in the comparable period in 2025. Spare parts sales were $9.1 million in Q3 2026, up 67.8% from $5.4 million in the comparable prior quarter. Gross margins on spare parts were 10%. Sales in the consolidated P&L do not reflect $3.5 million of intercompany sales that are transacted at cost and eliminated in consolidation, providing incremental value to the consolidated business and our lease portfolio.

Equipment sales in the third quarter of 2026 were $89.1 million, whereas there were no such sales in the prior comparable period. These Q3 2026 revenues primarily reflect the sale of five aircraft recently acquired to our Willis Mitsui joint venture, where the company effectively warehoused these assets to effect the sale. Also included in these sales were two engines and one airframe. The trading profit on sale of this equipment was $6.2 million, representing a 7% gross margin gain on sale of lease equipment.

A net revenue metric was $5.5 million in the third quarter, resulting from the sale of eight engines as well as other equipment, compared to $16.1 million in the comparable prior period. Q3 gains on sale represented a 17% gross margin on $32.1 million of gross sales. Gain on sale was lighter than the gains in the preceding quarter, as Q2 was influenced by the seeding of our leasing fund portfolio. Maintenance services revenue, which represents engine and aircraft storage and repair services and revenues related to management of fixed base operator services, increased by $7.6 million, or 208.5%, to $11.2 million in the third quarter of 2026. This growth was predominantly related to growth in engine and aircraft storage and repair services. Gross margin was a negative $1.7 million for the quarter. Our maintenance services offerings enhance our ability to provide a differentiated offering and program solution to our customer base.

Intercompany revenue for maintenance services are eliminated in consolidation and therefore not reflected in our P&L, but continue to increase the profitability of our owned and managed assets. Management and advisory fees, the fees generated through our asset management efforts, were $4.5 million in the quarter, up 140%. On the expense side of the equation, depreciation and amortization expense increased by $2.7 million, or 9%, to $31.4 million in Q3 2026. The increase is primarily due to an increase in the size of our lease portfolio and the timing of placing acquired engines on lease. Write-down of equipment was $4.5 million in the third quarter, reflecting the impairment of three engines. These asset write-downs are generally associated with the evaluation of engines post-lease return.

G&A expenses decreased by $0.5 million to $48.7 million in the third quarter. The decrease was primarily driven by a reduction in personnel costs and expenses related to the ceased sustainable aviation fuel project, partially offset by increased outside professional and insurance costs. Technical expense increased by $5.1 million to $13.5 million in the quarter as compared to $8.4 million in the prior comparable period due to an increased level of engine repair activity.

Technical expense generally relates to unplanned maintenance, whereas engine performance restorations tend to be planned and capitalized events. Net finance cost decreased $4.3 million, or 11.7%, to $32.8 million in the quarter. The decrease was primarily attributable to $2.4 million of lower costs associated with debt extinguishment, as we had effectively completed the paydown of our West 7 financing, and a lower overall weighted average cost of debt capital, slightly offset by increased total leverage.

Income from operations was $11.5 million compared to $38 million in the prior comparable period. Income from investments was $7.3 million, up $2.1 million, or 41%, from the prior period. This income was driven by growth contributions from our Willis Mitsui joint venture as well as our other asset management businesses, and slightly offset by declines through our smaller China-based joint venture. When we analyze our year-to-date income from investments and fund management and advisory fees and compare that to our 2026 average balance sheet investments, we can see that these initiatives have generated a 32% ROI.

Earnings before tax, or EBT, of $18.8 million for the quarter as compared to EBT of $43.2 million for the prior comparable period. Income tax expense was $7.1 million for the quarter, reflecting a 38% effective tax rate. Our third quarter effective tax rate includes a one-time charge of approximately $0.6 million, or 3 percentage points, reflecting the impact of Florida’s 2026 legislative decision not to adopt certain federal tax law changes under the one big beautiful bill and the resulting updates to our current and deferred tax estimates.

As this adjustment relates to prior-year tax positions, we do not expect it to recur. We would expect that our year-to-date 28% ETR to be the best estimate for a full-year ETR. The company produced $10.2 million of net income attributable to common shareholders, which factors in GAAP taxes, net income attributable to our non-controlling interest, and the cost of our preferred equity. Diluted weighted average income per share was $0.47 in the third quarter of 2026. Adjusted EBITDA for the third quarter of 2026 was $100.9 million. We believe that our adjusted EBITDA reflects the normalized generation capability of the Willis enterprise.

Our adjusted EBITDA makes adjustments to our net income attributable to common shareholders for income tax expense, interest expense, preferred stock dividends and costs, the loss on debt extinguishment, depreciation and amortization expense, stock-based compensation expense, write-down of equipment, acquisition, financing and divestitures-related expenses, and other discrete gains and expenses. Net cash provided by operating activities year to date was $239 million, up 14% compared to Q3 year to date 2025.

Fluxes with the prior period predominantly related to changes in net income net of tax effects, the cash tax effects, losses on debt extinguishment, the non-cash effects of impairment on equipment, the prior-year gain on sale of our WAM business to Willis Mitsui, and a period-over-period $44 million increase in cash provided by changes in assets and liabilities. On the financing and capital structure side of the business, the company in July effected a 3-for-1 common stock split, effective July 21, 2026, to provide for more liquidity in our common shares. On September 29th we closed the private placement of $35 million of Series B preferred stock with our partner, the Development Bank of Japan, increasing their par investment in our preferred shares to $100 million. The incremental $35 million investment carries an 8.09% dividend.

On October 28, the Board of Directors approved the expansion and extension of our share repurchase program. The program was increased to $200 million in total size and extended through December 31, 2031. In August we paid our ninth consecutive regular quarterly dividend, which was 13.3 cents per share. Subsequent to quarter-end, our Board of Directors has declared our 10th consecutive recurring quarterly dividend at a rate of $0.15 per share, reflecting a 12.8% increase from our prior dividend, and this dividend will be payable on November 25th to holders at November 16th, 2026.

A recurring dividend provides shareholders with a moderate current cash yield on their investment while not degrading the strong cash flow of our business and speaks to the health of the business and its underlying cash flow generation. With respect to leverage, as defined as total debt obligations net of cash and restricted cash to equity inclusive of preferred stock, our leverage was 2.88 times at the end of the third quarter of 2026. Our leverage and capital availability across the entire Willis platform provides us the flexibility to access market opportunities as they become available. With that, I will hand the call back to Austin.

Austin Willis (Chief Executive Officer)

Thank you, Scott. As you can see, we are delivering on our strategy to supplement our on-balance-sheet leasing business with asset management. While this strategy moderates on-balance-sheet growth as we deploy third-party capital, it is consistent with our long-term strategy, and we expect it to ultimately deliver premium returns. With that, I’d like to open up the call for Q&A.

OPERATOR

Thank you. If you would like to ask a question at this time, please signal by pressing star-one on your telephone keypad. If you’re using a speakerphone, please make sure your mute function is turned off to allow your signal to reach our equipment. Once again, star-one for questions. We’ll take our first question from Angelina Chao with Deutsche Bank.

Angelina Zhao (Analyst)

Good morning, this is Angelina Zhao on for Shannon. Thanks for taking my question. So my first question is, this quarter saw a solid increase in lease revenue. What are you seeing in terms of demand across your engine portfolio by engine types?

Austin Willis (Chief Executive Officer)

Thanks, Angelina. We’re seeing pretty consistent demand across our portfolio, both in the legacy or current tech as well as the more modern tech. We generally don’t break it down engine by engine, but I can tell you that it still remains robust. There’s always fluctuations. You might have a 5B or a 7B high one quarter and a little bit lower the next quarter, and the same goes for GTFs or LEAPs. So we continue to see fluctuations, but demand remains positive.

Pretty consistent. Lease rates have remained on average pretty flat for the majority of the year for most of the engine types, with some going up a little bit and some going down a little bit.

Angelina Zhao (Analyst)

Got it. Thank you. And I have another question. So you called out focusing on growing the Willis Lease Finance platform, including your balance sheet, and with remaining capital available across the Liberty Mutual and Blackstone strategies, how should we think about the pace of deployment from here and the mix of incremental asset growth between the balance sheet and the managed third-party capital? Thank you.

Austin Willis (Chief Executive Officer)

Sure, sure. So we have in round terms about 3 billion in capital that we can deploy, or dry powder, so to speak. We tend to think about our origination opportunities in terms of a third, a third, a third. We try to allocate about a third between our joint ventures, a third between our fund with Blackstone, and a third on balance sheet. The first half of the year we really focused on seeding the Blackstone and Liberty Mutual funds. So that was, you know, both trying to originate from the market but also taking assets from our own balance sheet and putting them into those funds. So that slowed our pace of growth on balance sheet somewhat. While we did that, we’ve done the majority of that seeding now. So as we originate, it’s going to have a more direct impact to our on-balance sheet growth as we also grow the other pockets of capital as well.

And that’s sort of what I was trying to allude to in my prepared remarks.

Angelina Zhao (Analyst)

Got it. Thank you.

OPERATOR

We will take our next question from Will Waller with M3S.

Will Waller (Analyst)

Hi. Great quarter operationally. From my perspective, this is probably one of the strongest quarters I’ve seen in the history of Willis Lease Finance. So great job on the maintenance reserve liability. In the press release you discussed the timing of recognition of long-term maintenance revenue, or long-term maintenance reserve revenue. I tracked the build of that through the balance sheet liability, which increased to 201.7 million at September 30, up from 129.3 million at June 30.

I don’t recall ever seeing a growth of that magnitude while only $2.6 million was recognized as long-term maintenance revenue during the quarter. Could you walk us through the primary drivers of that liability increase, and specifically how much of that came from collections of reimbursable reserves versus any amounts that were assumed in acquisitions or other portfolio activity?

Austin Willis (Chief Executive Officer)

So I will just say one quick thing and then I’ll hand it over to Scott. We did have the highest number of lease extensions in the third quarter that we saw in over a year and higher than, you know, 2026. To date it’s been higher than 2024, but a little bit lower than 24. And as you know, lease extensions do play a role in rev rec with respect to long-term reserves. So I wanted to quickly mention that. But I’ll hand it over to Scott, who’s going to be able to give you a more concise answer.

Scott Flaherty (Chief Financial Officer)

Sure. Thanks, Austin. And thanks, Will. Thanks for the comments on the quarter. So yeah, you’re talking about a couple things that have happened. Obviously we were acquisitive in the quarter and Austin, I think, discussed the WNG transaction. So some of the assets we brought over did come with reserves, right? So that’s going to adjust — that will have an effect on our pro forma balance sheet. But then, and you’ll see this when we come out later today with our 10-Q, if you just look on our cash flow statement and you look at the net cash provided by maintenance reserves — and the maintenance reserves are going to be associated with the long-term leases — it was 27.8 million year to date compared to 16.2 million year to date in the prior year. So what we are seeing is that shift, or the mix shift, slightly to newer tech assets which tend to be on a longer-term lease.

And whereas you might not see that in the P&L long-term MR, you definitely see it on a cash basis.

Will Waller (Analyst)

Okay, that makes sense. And Austin, you mentioned that the lease extension rate is a bit elevated. Do you guys have any sense of what percentage of long-term leases are being extended that would then obviously defer the recognition of some of that maintenance reserve revenue on the long-term leases?

Austin Willis (Chief Executive Officer)

I don’t have those numbers handy right now. But I will say that, generally speaking, the lease extensions were, I’d say, 10 to 15% higher than they had been in previous quarters. And I wouldn’t attribute that to anything in particular other than just, you know, the normal fluctuations in our business.

Will Waller (Analyst)

Yeah. Probably shows that there’s good demand. A lot of airlines don’t want to return the engines, which I’d say is probably a positive trend. And then on the — you kind of mentioned that, you know, a lot of these are new generation engines. I think you gave the statistic that 60% of your portfolio is now sort of the new tech engines. Is that by number or by dollar amount that’s carried on your balance sheet of your equipment? Is it by number of engines or by dollar amount of engines that 60% is new tech engines?

Austin Willis (Chief Executive Officer)

That’s by dollar amount.

Will Waller (Analyst)

Okay, perfect. All right, great, great quarter. And if there’s no other questions, I might ask one more but I’ll drop back into the queue, please.

OPERATOR

Thank you. We’ll take our next question from Buckley Capital. Caller, please state your name.

Scott Flaherty (Chief Financial Officer)

So the amount of the increase that was related to cash flow on a year to date, like I said, was 27.8 million. And the rest — so on a year to date basis, looking back — was related to acquisition.

Austin Willis (Chief Executive Officer)

Yeah, I mean, it’s going to be consistent with our general origination, and I’ll say we’ve been pretty judicious about what we’ve bought over the past year. It’s going to come down to where the market opportunities play out in 2027. You know, I think there’s a view that there may be more opportunities to acquire attractive assets at good values, and should that manifest itself, I think we’ll deploy pretty quickly. But, you know, these also do tend to be lumpy.

So I know that’s not a very precise answer for you, but we have, I believe, two years for the investment phase of the funds, and our expectation is to deploy the capital well inside of that.

Scott Flaherty (Chief Financial Officer)

You’re talking about the— No, it’s hard for us to do that for a lot of the reasons that we’re talking about. You know, the assets get extended on lease, you know, but it’s just — it’s over time. It does get recognized, right. I mean it’s really all timing, right. The cash flow is happening on a current basis. Most of the engines that we have that are on long-term lease are going to be paying current MRs. So the cash flow is being realized in real time. But over time the long-term MR will be realized.

But it’s really hard for us to say exactly when it is because the various terms of the lease we look at — our average portfolio is approximately two years, but the longer-term leases are obviously longer than that, and they’ll be realized over that period.

OPERATOR

Thank you. As a reminder, star one for questions. We’ll go back to Will Waller with M3S.

Will Waller (Analyst)

Yeah. As it relates to the $200 million share repurchase authorization, when you look at the convertible debt, how do you look at buying back common stock versus potentially buying back that convertible debt? And if you did go back into the markets and buy some of the debt that you recently issued, would that go against that repurchase authorization that you just authorized, or would that be something you could do outside of that?

Scott Flaherty (Chief Financial Officer)

Yeah, so — good question. You know, it’s two different things, right? The convertible bond is not part of a share repurchase program. So can we go out and buy debt in the open market and retire at a discount? Yes, we can, and that would not go against the $200 million program that we have on the share repurchase side. But as always, we kind of look where we get the most bang for the buck for how we spend our dollars and how we allocate our capital.

And does it make sense to buy a share back or does it make sense to buy debt back in the open market? I mean, we’ve done all of these things in the past. Or does it make sense to put the next dollar into a new asset? We kind of evaluate all these things on a case-by-case basis to where we’re going to generate the best returns for the business.

Will Waller (Analyst)

Okay, that makes sense. And then I think at the end of last year, appraisals were kind of showing the current market value of engines — I think were about $700 million above what they’re carried at on the balance sheet. Does it feel like to you guys — I know you only get appraisals done once a year, I think, on those — but with all the changes that have gone on with your portfolio with, you know, sales and so on, do you have any sense of what that gain might be today, the unrealized gain?

Austin Willis (Chief Executive Officer)

Sure. Yeah. So, Will, as you know, we do this once a year, and definitely I want to encourage you to stay tuned for when we do it — when we tell you next year. But I wouldn’t expect there to be any material difference in, you know, kind of percentages. We haven’t seen material movements, and our portfolio is material enough that it doesn’t change over any specific quarter. So I would expect to have consistent percentages that we’ve had in the past there.

Will Waller (Analyst)

Great, that’s good to hear. And it seems like the stock trades at such a discount to what the intrinsic value of the equity and the value of the engines you have is. That would make great sense if you buy back stock or buy back some of that debt. So glad to see the authorization and hope to see that you act on it. And then one last question, just kind of circling back to the topic I asked about before on long-term maintenance revenues and so on. Do you know roughly what percentage of your leases are long term versus short term?

I know historically it’s kind of 50/50, but just kind of curious what that is these days.

Austin Willis (Chief Executive Officer)

Yeah, that really hasn’t changed very much, Will. It’s still roughly 50/50.

Will Waller (Analyst)

Okay, perfect. Well, thanks a lot. I really appreciate it.

Austin Willis (Chief Executive Officer)

Thank you. Thank you, Will.

OPERATOR

With no additional questions in queue at this time, I’d like to turn the call back over to Austin Willis for any additional or closing remarks.

Austin Willis (Chief Executive Officer)

Thank you, operator. We appreciate everybody giving us their time today, and we look forward to speaking to you again in the new year.

OPERATOR

That will conclude today’s call. We appreciate your participation.

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